Many fans have even wondered if Rick might be killed off there with Carl taking over leadership duties.

And I mentioned four names.

None of them were right, and he had to tell me that it was the kid.

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I was so shocked that he said three times, Are you there?

I didnt know what to do.

I didnt know what to say.

So it was incredibly shocking.

Everybody was reeling from it and continue to reel from it.

Thats not done lightly, you know?

And from this episode onwards, that s got real.

Its not that dramatic, okay.

But then the back half, its seismic.

Its like they spun the show off into a completely different universe.

Hes in the middle of a war and hes lost the reason he went to war.

Its a big deal, so to make a run at thread that needle was very challenging and exciting.

The interesting thing is I dont know when the decision was made to do something this radical.

It must have been relatively late because I had no clue.

I mean, they dont just generally tell me things.

They made the call.

They couldve played safe and had the hero live and take on the show.

They didnt do it.

The torch is the kid.

They cant pass the torch on to the kid.

Thats the standard way to do it and theyve not done it.

And also, hes super smart, and hes incredibly composed as a young man.

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