All hope looked lost.

That was the situation for Ben Driebergen.

There was no way Chrissy, Ryan, and Devon would not vote out the games most dangerous player.

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We asked the season 35 champ all that and more right after his dramatic and emotional victory.

And honestly, Ryan did really good at final Tribal.

Hes a good talker, weve all seen that.

I was really scared.

I didnt ever think I had it in the bag.

What about when you walked out of Tribal after it was all over?Negative.

Its such a scary feeling with the stress that has happened since May.

No one in their right mind would be like, Oh, I definitely won it.

You dont want to believe that youre going to win and then not win.

And then youd hear something or see something or get a text message from somebody.

I think some of the jury was still playing the game after the game ended too!

So there was no way to feel confident and comfortable, ever.

I didnt want to give up.

I was looking for idols at the final four, just because the game was crazy.

I was never going to give up.

Im glad we did that together.

A lot of people are weighing in on the new twist.

Some people loved it and others are screaming that it was unfair.

And I think it brings a new element onto the game.

How tough would have been to lose a million dollars thanks to an upside-down U?

[Laughs]That was heartbreaking.

That was a kick in the groin area and I knew I was done.

Lets play a game ofSurvivorWhat If?

Lets say Devon beats you in the fire-making challenge and puts you on the jury.

Shes playing the game though.

We all screwed up.

We were all mean and let things get taken a little too far, but that is the game.

You get so trapped inside the game.

If Joe says something about the Marines I should be able to just push it aside.

So as a player, I respect Joe for that move.

Some people from mass shootings have reached out to me and said thank you.

How difficult was that to talk about on TV?I didnt think they were going to show it.

And if I can do this and help people out then 100 percent Im on board.

Theyve had winners come back to play again before.

Would you come back and do this all over again?Oh, yes.

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