James Lim experienced a lot in his briefSurvivorstint.

He went through two tribe swaps.

And now he has experienced being voted out.

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Why didnt his sales pitch stick?

What does he think of Michael even voting against him?

And is he still having nightmares involving water after his challenge debacle?

Here are some highlights from our chat.

EW RADIO: You looked pretty surprised by the vote last night.

What were you thinking when you went into Tribal Council?

Part of me knew that I was one of the main targets, obviously.

I think thats where the reaction of calling it a blindside came from.

It was just an immediate reaction, and people are calling it a death glare.

It was more a mixture of shock and disappointment.

But Im glad that I went out with a memorable moment like that.

Some people are calling it the Michaela moment of the season.

Michaels vote was the one that really surprised you though, right?I think so.

So the Kellyn and Desiree versus me and Michael dynamic was correct, and Angela was in the middle.

But to see that even Michael had voted me off kudos to him.

For him, its a way to stay loyal to Kellyn and Desiree and prove his loyalty to Naviti.

But, for me, it was a little bit of a shock, to be honest.

Ive thought that a thousand times.

Lets rip the bandage off and talk about that water challenge where you could not dive down.

Clearly, you were struggling.

Before flying out, I had a friend who was a varsity Columbia swimmer and diver train me.

and all those thoughts came together.

I choked, and I still stand by that.

Have you taken some heat from your athlete buddies?Absolutely.

Its all good trash-talking and all in good fun.

And he feels you were able to use that and make connections because of it.

And I wanted to disprove that.

Jeff recommended that I go watch Tony Robbins.

And my question was: Who the hell is that?

I had never heard that name.

One of my biggest appeals ofSurvivorwas the chance to meet such a cross-section of America.

And thats a facet that I will be forever proud of.

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