Pink on super-producer Max Martin: 'We never wanted to work together' and 'argue a lot'

Is that why you released it first?PINK:I needed to make that.

I am an engaged person.

I am very political Im from a military family.

Ive always been this way.

I believe in equality and inclusiveness and diversity and kindness and just generally not being a total douchebag.

But my whole day is not CNN.

Life is still being lived.

Im never going to win a popularity contest and be the prettiest why start now?

Youve worked with hitmaker Max Martin (Katy Perry, Taylor Swift) since 2006.

Whats your creative relationship like?We argue a lot.

We never wanted to work together.

[Laughs] That was one of the labels decisions.

Were going to drink this first bottle before we even talk.

And hes a good dude.

You notice I dont work with Dr. Luke anymore.

Eminem, who was on your last album, is featured on the highlight Revenge.

Were you planning for another duet?No,I sneak-attacked him.

Max and I started making the song, and I wrote this rap.

I like that you work with a lot of the same people, like Rihanna.

Shes hotter than me, but Im funnier.

So Im going for a rap Grammy, and Id like to take you along with me.

It was this long email, and he wrote back right away and just said Okay.

Is Willow aware of your day job?Shes trying to figure out what being famous means.

I keep telling her it means nothing unless youre doing good things.

Im like, Oh my God!

[Laughs] It was almost a nice moment!

Your VMAs acceptance speech, where you talked about Willows self-image struggles, went viral in August.

What was the fan response like?Thereve been so many tears!

The last couple of weeks shes been thinking about trying to change.

I have tears in my eyes right now.