Well, that was brutal.

What was going through Dans mind when he saw that played?

Was it fair, considering he didnt even know the twist existed?

Aren’t Brochachos Just Adorable?

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And how does he feel about Kara turning on him?

We asked Dan all that and more when the S.W.A.T.

cop called intoEW Morning Live(SiriusXM, channel 105) on Monday.

Read on for highlights from our chat.

Every time you watch the show, you think:Oh, Im good, I got an idol.

Theres no way this is real.Because I had never seen it before, never heard of it before.

So I was like,Well, I guess its my time.

Time to go home.

When you find an idol, it should be golden.

I feel like they should be sacred, but thats the great thing aboutSurvivor.

Its always changing and always evolving.

Its just another thing that people are going to have to look at down the road whenever they play.

So it improves the game, as sucky as it is to say, but I get it.

So was it fair?

Thats the great thing aboutSurvivor.

Its always changing, always evolving, always growing, always getting better, always new twists.

Definitely fair, even though it caught me off-guard.

I think you would have to have played two at the beginning.

You would have to have known there was a Nullifier.

I cant be upset about it.

If thats how she saw it, then thats how she saw it.

Man, thats a tough question, to be honest.

I didnt think I was ruining anybodys game.

Watching it back and people talking about me being a threat, I didnt see that either.

So I dont know how I was labeled this big threat.

So I was like, What happened?

And now I see what happened so it definitely clears some stuff up for me.

I talked to her after.

We seem to be okay.

No hard feelings on my end.

But I told her that I would.

It was something that I struggled with all the way to the point that I did it.

But I told her I would do it, so I had to do it in my mind.

So it was proving my loyalty to the rest of the Goliath tribe and keeping my alliance strong.

As much as I didnt want to.

It was something I definitely struggled with.

Who was in your ideal final 3?

Was it John and Kara?Oh, yeah, absolutely 100 percent.

Because those were my two closest people.

I was with John every day until he left.

We had the Brochachcos thing going on.

And then me and Kara connected on the first day.

So we start chit-chatting a little bit and then I told him Okay, see you later.

Im going to go look for some wood.

So then I go looking for the clue again, and then Alison and Gabby start walking up!

So I jump over and Im like, Hey!

Whats up, guys?

Im looking for some wood.

And then aftertheyleft it took me 10 to 15 minutes just to find the clue again.

I almost hid it from myself!

I had no clue that was going on, not even after the fact.

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