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And we started making music together.
And then the music she was making at that time was further along.
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So, her album came out as opposed to the joint album that we were working on.
We still have a lot of that music.
And this is what it became.
There was never a point where it was like, Im making this album.
I was right there the entire time.
The best place is right in the middle of the pain.
And thats where we were sitting.
And it was uncomfortable.
And we had a lot of conversations.
I think shes amazing.
Its a complicated relationship with us.
On his complicated relationship with West:Kanye came into this business on my label.
So Ive always been like his big brother.
And were both entertainers.
Its always been like a little underlying competition with your big brother.
And we both love and respect each others art, too.
So its like, we both everyone wants to be the greatest in the world.
You know what Im saying?
And then theres like a lot of other factors that play in it.
But its gonna, we gonna always be good.
You know what Im saying?
Theres gonna be complications in the relationship that we have to get through.
These are the things that are unacceptable to me.
This is what I feel.
Im sure he feels that Ive done things to him as well.
You know what Im saying?
These are Im not a perfect human being by no stretch.
Hes not a superhero.
And its unfair to place unfulfillable expectations on this man just because of his color.
Youre actually doing the opposite.
Its like, what do you think is gonna happen?
Hes there for eight years.
And he has to undo what 43 presidents have done.
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On going to therapy:I grew so much from the experience.
But I think the most important thing I got is that everything is connected.
Every emotion is connected and it comes from somewhere.
And just being aware of it.
Being aware of it in everyday life puts you at such a … youre at such an advantage.
You know, you realize that if someones racist toward you, it aint about you.
Its about their upbringing and what happened to them, and how that led them to this point.
You know, most bullies bully.
Oh, you got bullied as a kid so you trying to bully me.
