Barry finally met his matchand she might not be human?
On Sunday,Barrydelivered its wildest, and most fascinating episode.
Like her dad, she knows martial arts, but she also appears to have supernatural abilities.
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She stabbed Barry before running off and easily jumping overa lotof fences.
She later made her way down and latched onto Fuches' face, eventually running off for good.
This latest injury sent Barry to a local store, where he encountered Ronny, still very much alive.
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Loach then seemed prepared to kill Barry, but Ronny again survived, wheel-kicking and killing Loach.
More cops then arrived and fatally shot Ronny, giving Barry the chance to run out the back.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Starting from the very beginning, what was the genesis of the idea for this episode?
I didn’t know where or why.
So I just had those five sentences written in a notebook.
And then I immediately went, “He should be the dad of the little girl!”
And everyone went, “What little girl?”
What can you tell us about the conversations of deciding to do this?
Anyone have a go at talk you out of it?
I can’t describe it.
Her not being fully human was kind of happening very slowly; it was very intuitive.
It was like, “How far can we push this before it gets too crazy?”
And it was one of those things where the episode and what she was doing could hold that.
A little goes a long way.
And he’s the like unsung hero ofBarry.
So it’s just trial and error; it can come from anybody.
I just thought it was funnier if she was just latched onto his face.
What if that room is filled with taekwondo trophies?"
And I start laughing, so let’s do that.
You would see all these action movies where the guy is mortally wounded but he still kicks ass.
Yeah, that’s bullsh.
The idea of the show is to knock down those machismo moments.
In addition to starring in it, you also directed this episode.
What was it like balancing the fight as an actor and director?
[Laughs]
Was that the reason for the outfit?
Yeah, it was like, this works out great.
And honestly, I wouldn’t have a big fight if Barry had to be in full gear.
There’s something about it… they just get tired.
Just base it on fights that you’ve seen.
It should feel kind of silly.
And somehow that would enhance the brutality of it.
It was all meticulously timed, and we did it in four takes.
One last question on the girl: Did you ever definitively decide what her deal was?
Even just to know for yourself.
It’s more interesting not to know.
You want to see it from Barry and Fuches' point of view.
You don’t want to know what the hell her deal is.
When she screams, Fuches says, “What are you?”
To me, that was the only movie reference in my head.
All of these movie references are subconscious.
at the end of that movie.
You mentioned that you went back and added the desert scenes.
Other than the emotional through-line, what is it that you wanted to convey there?
It’s hard to talk about this stuff without sounding super fing pretentious.
Alec and I always talk about the desert being this place where Barry does a lot of his killing.
Again, just saying this stuff makes me want to punch myself in the face.
[Laughs] It’s like, “Oh, f you, man.”
If I heard someone else saying this, I’d roll my eyes.
And Alec will fully kill me for saying it in an interview, but it’s true.
It’s almost like we’re talking about having an affair but we can’t tell anybody about it.
“Don’t breathe this to anyone, but we have very conscious symbolism in our show!”
The thought I had was he came home from the war into the arms of a devil.
I don’t think that when he came home it took place in a desert.
Did you view it that way?
This is a big turning point.
It needed an emotional pull to it.
And you see that throughout the episode.
It was very important that Barry go, “Fuches, I’m dying.”
Writing it, it was very conscious for me to see to it that that was in there.
Moving forward, we will see how it plays out.
We only have three episodes left, so what would be your short tease of what’s to come?
You learn Barry’s truth.
Barryairs Sundays afterGame of Throneson HBO.
