In the season 4 finale ofBetter Call Saul, Jimmy McGill made his intentions clear.

How long will Kim (Rhea Seehorn) stand by this rapidly-disintegrating man?

Youre asking all the same questions were asking in the writers room,Saulco-creator Peter Gould tells EW.

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So he can get quite far.

The question is: how does he establish a reputation as not just a criminal lawyerbut acriminallawyer?

And what does that mean to him at this point?

With true transformation now in play, is it fair game to talk end game forBetter Call Saul?

How many more seasons does Gould believe that the show will run?

My dream would be that this is somewhere in the same universe of satisfaction asBreaking Badwas.

Having said that, I think we are closer to the end than to the beginning.

I am very, very interested in Gene Takovic, says Gould.

In some ways, Gene is very enigmatic.

But I dont want to dip in toBreaking Badjust because we can.

Clickhere to read more from Gouldon that game-changing finale.