In fact,he has been dreading bidding adieu to Jimmy as transition time looms.

If he was my friend, I would say, Dont go that route.

(Breaking Badnever established whether Saul was married or much of anything about his personal life.)

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I wouldnt want her to be with Saul, he tells EW.

In the end, she couldnt be with Saul.

Saul is dangerous sleazy.

Hes a bad guy.

Hes looking to screw the world.

And to come out on top.

Regardless of how he gets there, hegetsthere.

And like that flawed protagonist on the mother show, Jimmy also feels victimized and aggrieved.

Hes been forced into this box.

But its not unlike Walter White saying, I have cancer, I need to raise money.

What am I gonna do?

I got no money, and my fin partner cheated me.

And then the more you watch, youre like, He didnt really f you.

He offered to help you.

He wanted to share.

It was all you.

It was all your little weird psychosis, and coupled with bad choices.

(As co-creator Peter Gould recently told EW, maybe Jimmy never wouldve become Saul GoodmanwithoutKim.)

Youre always down, Jimmy).

I would love that outcome, he says.

And he can imagine a colorful, opposites-attract vision of their alternate future.

The season 4 finale ofBetter Call Saulairs next Monday at 9 p.m. ET/PT on AMC.

For much more from Peter Gould on Jimmy and Kim,head over here.